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nadriel ([personal profile] nadriel) wrote2003-09-10 08:07 am

It's Wednesday, and I'm in Devon...

Okay, not quite as catchy as some titles, but hey look at the material I have to work with here...

Didn't sleep well last night- still feeling fairly shitty. Still got some good thinking in, as always. Not about anything of note, just generic thinking on reality, perception, the usual sort of thing.

So, today's thoughtful bit:

I sometimes despair of the human race- every day I see people not thinking about anyone other than themselves, or just not thinking. I mean, if people just took a little time to think about the effect their actions, then surely the world would be a better place.

But the prevelant attitude seems to be, "Well, it benefits me, so it's okay".

*sigh*

Re: Prevalent attitude BOLLOCKS

[identity profile] nadriel.livejournal.com 2003-09-10 09:50 am (UTC)(link)
I never said the human race as a whole doesn't do altruism or suchlike. However, I keep an eye on trends in society and, in particular, in politics, and I don't like they way they are going.

I haven't written off the human race. If I had, I would do something about it.

I am optimistic and hopeful about individuals in general, and I am frequently disappointed.

Anyway, I can't get my points across properly in this medium, so we'll have to continue this next time we meet.

Re: Prevalent attitude BOLLOCKS

[identity profile] joysilence.livejournal.com 2003-09-10 12:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry if I've misunderstood you, I tend to treat sentences beginning with "the prevalent attitude seems to be..." as more or less equivalent to "the human race as a whole does/thinks X", though maybe some people have different definitions etc. A lot of arguments seem to boil down to word definitions after all. But, if you "despair of the human race" even sometimes, how can you be optimistic about individuals? Unless you just mean individuals who haven't pissed you off yet ;)

Re: Prevalent attitude BOLLOCKS

[identity profile] nadriel.livejournal.com 2003-09-10 04:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Because I have an intrinsically strnge nature. I can disassociate the individual from the group that they associate with. So while I may have a low opinion of the group in general, specific individuals that I have encountered may well have a better reception, depending upon their individual actions....

Re: Prevalent attitude BOLLOCKS

[identity profile] joysilence.livejournal.com 2003-09-11 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
That's not indicative of a "strange" nature at all, because that's the attitude the majority of people takes: 'the human race/people from Manchester/blacks piss me off but I like my friends'. Show me someone who doesn't take that attitude, and I'll show you either a saint or a complete fiend. It's the strength of your revulsion for those not part of your circle of friends that puzzles me, not the fact that you distinguish between having friends and enemies. We all do that; we're all capable of overcoming prejudice when it benefits us socially to do so!

Re: Prevalent attitude BOLLOCKS

[identity profile] nadriel.livejournal.com 2003-09-11 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
I dislike wasted potential.

Re: Prevalent attitude BOLLOCKS

[identity profile] joysilence.livejournal.com 2003-09-11 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
So what, you're going to "despair" and cease giving these people any credit for having potential? I know you don't think like that all the time though, because you said so; which is good. I don't think there's a person alive who likes wasted potential. The hard thing is judging whether or not the person has wasted their potential.

Re: Prevalent attitude BOLLOCKS

[identity profile] nadriel.livejournal.com 2003-09-11 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
Hardly. But this journal is one of the places I prefer to vent in- it means I can get it out of my system and get on with things.

Re: Prevalent attitude BOLLOCKS

[identity profile] joysilence.livejournal.com 2003-09-11 04:59 am (UTC)(link)
Sure, it's your journal.